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Posted by | July 23, 2012, 10:36 pm
uncensored.co.nz: Vaccinated Children Have Up To 500% More Disease Than Unvaccinated Children
Date: July 23, 2012
Posted by | July 23, 2012, 11:53 pm( Are you on your weekend or something, Doctor ?
Because you always seem to be )
If you were right and that there should be no debate over this issue
then you wouldn’t need to be here constantly providing your side of it.
If you could resolve this ‘vaccine debate’ by yourself
then you would have done so by now.
So obviously – there’s more to it than just your own perspective.
I don’t like the word ‘propoganda’.
Too many negative connotations.
I post information and points of view
– that I think are interesting or might be relevant to people
beyond just myself or my own family.
If you don’t like that
too bad.
Posted by | July 24, 2012, 12:33 amOn leave currently, hence lots of posts. If you don’t like it – tough biccies.
The reason that there is debate over this issue is not that the evidence is inconclusive.
Parents have an inherent loathing of vaccines – both the content and the method of administration. It is natural for them to question whether vaccines are safe and necessary, especially in current times where diseases like polio and tetanus are just about unheard of in developed countries.
So they go looking for information.
And what do they find?
They find a series of carefully crafted snippets of information generated by people who have a financial interest in putting down vaccinations (and other forms of mainstream medicine) to promote their own products/books/supplements.
If you have a look at the anti-vax websites, you will see that there are hundreds of them, but they actually contain a small set of identical data with no variation between them. If you cut one of Ivor’s posts and google it.’you will find multiple hits.
These snippets of information are largely inaccurate -nthey range from half truths through to deliberate misinterpretations through to outright lies.
Many of the posts I have made on the vaccines threads here have been to deconstruct these snippets and show WHY they are wrong or deceitful…. However most of them are actually presented in a pretty slick form with good English and a handful of references, and will therefore convince many parents who are looking for reasons not to immunize their kids.
This is why despite the evidence that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks actually being pretty persuasive, there will always be a group of people who think that after 20 minutes of research over a coffee they know better than thousands of government funded (not Big Pharma) paediatricians, epidemiologists, and infectious disease specialists, and THIS is why we have outbreaks of diseases like measles in Auckland.
In my experience it takes something bad happening to one of their kids for these people to change their views – the most common reaction is “why did nobody tell us?”
The most interesting thing about Ivor’s argument is his utter unwillingness to engage in any discussion about the benefits of vaccines. He has repeatedly refuses to comment on the Auckland measles figures (which show that less than 10 percent of Auckland measles victims are fully immunized) and resorts to allegations of “lies”, or changes the topic.
Resolving a debate is somewhat difficult when one side refuses to acknowledge a key part of the argument.
What is it like to be a parent of a child who becomes autistic following MMR vaccination?
Read real parents' stories in Silenced Witnesses (Volumes 1 and 2) edited by investigative writer Martin J. Walker. slingshotpublications.com
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